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	<title>Comments on: VMware vSphere 4 vs. Microsoft Hyper-V R2 &#8211; A CTI Strategy Whitepaper</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Galvin</title>
		<link>http://ctistrategy.com/2009/08/18/vmware-vsphere-microsoft-hyperv-whitepaper/comment-page-1/#comment-2249</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Galvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marc, thanks for the comments. The examples I picked were designed for easy comparison and costing, not necessarily real-life accuracy. However I do think the points made are valid and that the costing shown is usable for other scenarios.

As to your statement that VMware vSphere is capable of running more VMs per host than Hyper-V, what is that based on? Certainly the vendors specifications are covered in the tables in the whitepaper, and in fact according to the specifications Hyper-V can have 512 guests while vSphere can only have 256 per host. But practically, it is likely that because vSphere has more advanced memory management, it can run more guests than Hyper-V could on a given server. I know of no proof of that assertion however. If you have data, please send it along. Because that is an important and seemingly open issue, we are planning on testing memory utilization of the two virtualization platforms in our labs and posting our results here. Feel free to subscribe to our RSS feed or check back for updates.

--Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marc, thanks for the comments. The examples I picked were designed for easy comparison and costing, not necessarily real-life accuracy. However I do think the points made are valid and that the costing shown is usable for other scenarios.</p>
<p>As to your statement that VMware vSphere is capable of running more VMs per host than Hyper-V, what is that based on? Certainly the vendors specifications are covered in the tables in the whitepaper, and in fact according to the specifications Hyper-V can have 512 guests while vSphere can only have 256 per host. But practically, it is likely that because vSphere has more advanced memory management, it can run more guests than Hyper-V could on a given server. I know of no proof of that assertion however. If you have data, please send it along. Because that is an important and seemingly open issue, we are planning on testing memory utilization of the two virtualization platforms in our labs and posting our results here. Feel free to subscribe to our RSS feed or check back for updates.</p>
<p>&#8211;Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Hyper-V R2 Vs. VMware vSphere 4.0 &#171; isthewebsitedown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyper-V R2 Vs. VMware vSphere 4.0 &#171; isthewebsitedown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] paper that discusses the differences. You hit the side by side comparison on about page 17 of the paper (no reg required). Bottom line: here are the top 6 differentiators as far as I am [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://ctistrategy.com/2009/08/18/vmware-vsphere-microsoft-hyperv-whitepaper/comment-page-1/#comment-2224</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just say that some of the examples given in the document are not based on real world experience. For example, you are talking about an implementation of 10 hosts, with 4 CPU sockets each, that will be running 30 virtual machines: that is an average of 3 VMs per host. Another point which is not taken into consideration is that VMware vSphere is capable of running more VMs per host than Hyper-V is.

Marc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just say that some of the examples given in the document are not based on real world experience. For example, you are talking about an implementation of 10 hosts, with 4 CPU sockets each, that will be running 30 virtual machines: that is an average of 3 VMs per host. Another point which is not taken into consideration is that VMware vSphere is capable of running more VMs per host than Hyper-V is.</p>
<p>Marc.</p>
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		<title>By: VMware vSphere 4 vs. Microsoft Hyper-V R2 Talk Available for Download &#124; CTI Strategy Blog</title>
		<link>http://ctistrategy.com/2009/08/18/vmware-vsphere-microsoft-hyperv-whitepaper/comment-page-1/#comment-2180</link>
		<dc:creator>VMware vSphere 4 vs. Microsoft Hyper-V R2 Talk Available for Download &#124; CTI Strategy Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter Galvin</title>
		<link>http://ctistrategy.com/2009/08/18/vmware-vsphere-microsoft-hyperv-whitepaper/comment-page-1/#comment-2140</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Galvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ernesto,

In the white paper we discuss both the low-level hypervisors (like ESX and Hyper-V) as well as the virtual machine manager eco-systems like vSphere and Microsoft Systems Center.  You are certainly correct that ESX (and ESXi) are free (but you have to pay for maintenance).  Just like Hyper-V is free with Windows Server 2008 R2.  But no one (or at least very few sites) run just the hypervisor. You need the management infrastructure as well, which is why we include that in the discussion. Also in the white paper is a cost analysis of a couple of scenarios, including hypervisors, management, and  maintenance.  

Technically there is certainly a debate about whether Hyper-V is a type 1 or type 2 hypervisor. That&#039;s also discussed in the white paper. But my take is that Hyper-V is closer to a type 1 than a type 2.  If it&#039;s stable, functional, and well-performing, then it qualifies for production use (in my book). There is no thin deployment of Hyper-V though, unlike ESXi, so I feel VMware has an advantage there.

--Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ernesto,</p>
<p>In the white paper we discuss both the low-level hypervisors (like ESX and Hyper-V) as well as the virtual machine manager eco-systems like vSphere and Microsoft Systems Center.  You are certainly correct that ESX (and ESXi) are free (but you have to pay for maintenance).  Just like Hyper-V is free with Windows Server 2008 R2.  But no one (or at least very few sites) run just the hypervisor. You need the management infrastructure as well, which is why we include that in the discussion. Also in the white paper is a cost analysis of a couple of scenarios, including hypervisors, management, and  maintenance.  </p>
<p>Technically there is certainly a debate about whether Hyper-V is a type 1 or type 2 hypervisor. That&#8217;s also discussed in the white paper. But my take is that Hyper-V is closer to a type 1 than a type 2.  If it&#8217;s stable, functional, and well-performing, then it qualifies for production use (in my book). There is no thin deployment of Hyper-V though, unlike ESXi, so I feel VMware has an advantage there.</p>
<p>&#8211;Peter</p>
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		<title>By: bernesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is your take on Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 vs. Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 w/Hyper-V when compared to VMWare&#039;s ESX. It seams like MSFT is going for the same Type 1 low footprint install. And as a plus they are offering it for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is your take on Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 vs. Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 w/Hyper-V when compared to VMWare&#8217;s ESX. It seams like MSFT is going for the same Type 1 low footprint install. And as a plus they are offering it for free.</p>
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